Heroes thoughts

[alexxkay]

Damnit! They didn't even make a *pretence* of killing Sylar. Long ago, rickthefightguy explained a principle of theatrical story to me: "You have to make the bad guy *soooo* bad, that when he gets blown away with a shotgun -- the audience cheers." The flip-side of this is that, having made the bad guy that bad -- you *don't* let him frickin' get away! Yeah, yeah, you might want to bring him back later. But it's not like that would be at all hard to bring him back, even if you did 'definitively' kill him. I can think of two methods without raising a sweat, and I'm sure there are others as well.

I had already suspected, and am now certain, that Charles Devaux's power was prophetic dreaming. Peter was exhibiting prophetic dreams right from episode one, well before he met Isaac. And the dreams are, while prophetic, very symbolic, while Isaac's visions of the future are quite literal. Peter's dreams featured him at Devaux's bedside suspiciously often, as well. So I think that his experience in the finale was actually a *shared* dream between him and Devaux.

kestrell is convinced that Peter and Claire have too much sexual tension / romantic sparkage to possibly be *actually* related. My thoughts: Nathan is the child of Angela Petrelli and Linderman (points - gets to feel guilty about "killing his own dad"); Peter is the child of Mr. Petrelli and someone unknown, *not* Angela (points - gets to angst about all his 'brotherly love', when Nathan actually is no blood relation).

Claire's escape out the window was *super-cool*! Slightly undercut by my nagging memory that the campaign headquarters seemed to be clearly on the ground floor for the first half of the season...

I was totally surprised to see D.L. survive, after he had a classic 'black guy sidekick' death scene last episode. Not displeased, but surprised. Great to see the two cute kids get together. I hope to see more of Wonder-Twins Molly and Micah.

Matt's a nice guy, but he is Too Stupid To Live. I suppose he will, though. Peter can easily survive from having Claire's power. Nathan can survive by reminding Peter that he can fly his-own-damn-self, and then flying away before the blast. At this point, it doesn't look like they killed anyone except Linderman (and it would be trivial to bring him back too, if they felt like it).

Overall, I found the finale rather disappointing, but I'm still definitely buying it on DVD and sticking around for next season.

Comments

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

We know from the online comics(whihc are considered canon by TPTB) that Nathan was born before Linderman and Petrelli Sr. met.

I suspected that either Mr. Deveux or Ma Petrelli had prophetic dreaming, but the first dream we know Peter had happen in "Six Months Before," before he got the gig working for Deveaux. However, since Ma Petrelli and Deveux knew eachother from Before, it's possible Peter had exprosure to him without knowing it.

I also suspect that Ma Petrelli has a pwoer, that it's manipulation. Not quite as overt as Eden's Persuasion, but the way she put her hand on Nathan's back when she was saying that no, he could not do anything to stop the bomb was telling, I think.

[alexx-kay.livejournal.com]

We know from the online comics(whihc are considered canon by TPTB) that Nathan was born before Linderman and Petrelli Sr. met.

The show itself has said that Mohinder was two when Shanti died, and that he wasn't born until after she died. They're clearly either careless about the fine details, willing to rewrite continuity for dramatic payoffs, or both.

Are we sure that "Six Months Before" was earlier than the flashback/dream from the finale? It's been long enough that I don't remember the details.

I also suspect that Ma Petrelli has a pwoer, that it's manipulation.

Certainly plausible, especially given how much both the actress and the writers are having her channel Angela Lansbury from "The Manchurian Candidate". It seems a bit obvious, though, which makes me suspect that they'll go in some different direction. I wonder if it will end up having anything to do with the shoplifting incident that first introduced the character.

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

Are we sure that "Six Months Before" was earlier than the flashback/dream from the finale?

Yes, because Peter had just gradauted from nursing school in 6MB, and the job with Devaux was his first nursing job.

I wonder if it will end up having anything to do with the shoplifting incident that first introduced the character.

I have seen speculation that the shoplifting thing involves Claude screwing with her. I like that theory, because a) Claude, b) We know she's in with OWI deep, so they would know eachother, c) we've seen him screw with Peter the same way and d) CLAUDE!

[alexx-kay.livejournal.com]

d) CLAUDE!

Hee!

[laurion]

I thought they were making it out that Peter had his hands full holding off the explosion, and therefore couldn't concentrate on flying. For many of the powers he has to actively engage them at this point, or let them happen without control at all.

That said, Nathan could've flown him up to the stratosphere, dropped him, and flown away. Peter lands (very hard) on a street or a river somewhere, but is ok. So your point still stands.

[asdr83.livejournal.com]

I don't think that the writers are really going to have the 16 year old and the in his mid-twenties character get together even if they turn out not to be related, Peter's too good to commit statutory.

[alexx-kay.livejournal.com]

The statuatory problem will go away by season 3, assuming the plot moves in anything like real-time, which seems likely.

[jducoeur]

While true, I'm not buying it. I'd give good odds that they introduce a meta next season who is close enough in age to Claire to make a more advertiser-safe love interest...

[jducoeur]

I had already suspected, and am now certain, that Charles Devaux's power was prophetic dreaming. Peter was exhibiting prophetic dreams right from episode one

Duh. I had figured the prophetic dreaming in this episode, but hadn't put it together with Peter's history. Yes, that makes oodles of sense, and it's even a very nice subtle bit of foreshadowing.

At this point, it doesn't look like they killed anyone except Linderman (and it would be trivial to bring him back too, if they felt like it).

Yep, that was my take on it as well. They're clearly trying to convince the viewing audience that Peter is dead until they decide to bring him back -- but having *evidence* that the explosion doesn't kill him (from the future episode), his off-screen death isn't very convincing...