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Date: 2012-02-23 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londo.livejournal.com
This is not a failing!

Videogames do a thing no other industry does. You cannot be good at watching a movie. You cannot be good at listening to an album. But you can be good at playing a game, and feel rewarded for acquiring and perpetrating competence.

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Date: 2012-02-24 12:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alexx-kay.livejournal.com
Actually, you *can* be good at experiencing "non-interactive" sorts of media. You can have a better understanding of the genre roots, the literary techniques the author uses, and other such things, than the average person does. Assuming it's well-made media, however, you don't *have* to have that deep engagement and prior knowledge to enjoy the work.

It is absolutely true that acquiring game skill is rewarding. But it doesn't have to be *required* for games which also contain other rewards.

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Date: 2012-02-24 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] londo.livejournal.com
Your last point seems especially salient when I have recently played a game in which I talked the end boss into killing himself.

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Date: 2012-02-24 02:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alexx-kay.livejournal.com
I bet Chris Avellone was on the writing team of that one. Love his work!

(If I'm wrong, let me know, because if I haven't played whatever you're talking about, I probably should :)

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Date: 2012-02-24 01:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
however, you don't *have* to have that deep engagement and prior knowledge to enjoy the work.

Apropos, my usenet sig quotes [livejournal.com profile] james_nicoll: "I don't mind hidden depths but I insist that there be a surface."

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Date: 2012-02-24 02:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alexx-kay.livejournal.com
That one has long been in my file of random quotes as well.

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Date: 2012-02-23 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
Is there a transcript of that video anywhere?

I see the point, and agree that one of the appeals of games is the sense of accomplishment. But (as I mentioned recently on another blog) I don't have good reflexes, and am not happy that the vast majority of commercial games I hear of require them. Which is why it's been about 20 years since I've spent any money on a computer game.

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Date: 2012-02-23 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
Back when the genre was new, I played a few games on my computer, before consoles were common.

I found the annoyance of getting stuck to outweigh the joy of playing. When you consider that I must lay out about $200 dollars or so in equipment and a game (or more) for the possibility of enjoyment...

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Date: 2012-02-24 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
When you consider that I must lay out about $200 dollars or so in equipment and a game (or more) for the possibility of enjoyment...

Any interest in free games that play in your browser? Jay is Games ([livejournal.com profile] jayisgames_com) reviews 4-5 of them every weekday (and non-broswer games and demos on the weekends); it's a major timesink source of entertainment for me.

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